USB Flash drives for NT4
04/01/2018 18:33
thought Calvin or someone had made referenceto having an USB Flash drive working on NT 4.0but found it was this: http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsnt.misc/browse_frm/thread/f26b065a6b7cd8c2/63301ad6199bee27?lnk=st&q=&rnum=20#63301ad6199bee27I actually do have a 'boot floppy' as well, and a parallel install ofNT4sitting on a Syquest 270MB removable HDD cartridge (Syquest drive isSCSIinterface) and I can boot to that parallel instance even if the HDD istotallytoast - and this has happened once. Found that After i downloaded all files from: Woodhead--NT4--USBhttp://www.geocities.com/mypublic99/index.html(how come his stuff is only a few kB whilst other's drivers for Nt 4.0 are many megabytes ?) Anyway my old Feb-1998 Tekram P5T30-B4E motherboard(intel 430TX Chipset) has two uhci usb ports ... (USB 1.0) Any chance these would work in NT 4.0 - sp6awith one of the usb flash drives ?? :rod-sacramento

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04/01/2018 18:33 - Correct - may be a bit hard to find. The normal arrangement will have 2 USB connectors on a 'leaf' that goes in a spare add-on slot at the back of the cabinet. The ribbon from these 'leaf' connects to the 8 pin header. (sometimes 10 pin - 4 pins for each USB port) I had to track down such a device a couple of years ago and came up empty-handed. They should have been supplied with the motherboard originally, but at the time most people didn't bother fitting them because USB was real new and nobody knew what to do with it :-( Quite the contrary - that is EXACTLY what this code is designed to support. I use SanDisk USB 'Cruizer Mini' and Cruier Micro' device here - work like a charm ! You'll definitely only get 12Mbps (USB 1.1 speed) however on your system, since your motherboard hardware well and truly pre-dates the USB2.0 standard.

Calvin.


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04/01/2018 18:33 - The 430tx momboard manual lists the connectoras an option .. in 1998 USB was still the Interfacefrom H@ll so i didnt bother getting the connector...

I have an 8-pin to ps2 connector .. so worstcase i cut-and-solder to usb female connector ?? i meant with usb drivers; i installed the Woodheaduhci.sys and usbstor.sys drivers; ok except inot yet have anything connected;i meant with drivers and usb flash stick;will Explorer see it as removable drive ?do they have to be formatted ? just checked: the old 430tx/82371AB chipset suportsUSB 1.1 standard .. but of course the BIOS only hasboot from disk/floppy/cd .. but as Academic exercise..

the boot.ini has scsi() syntax for those devicesWithOut BIOS support ( just copy the scsi driverto tbootdd.sys ) .. so if NT 4.0 boot floppyhad proper boot.ini scsi() synatx and the USBdriver was copied to A: tbootdd.sys ... ????? :rod-sacramento

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04/01/2018 18:33 - After downloading: http://www.geocities.com/mypublic99/package.ziphttp://www.geocities.com/mypublic99/usbstor_demo.zip installing: (ie right-click and selecting merge for the .reg)C:SYSUSBpackage.zipuhci.sysC:SYSUSBpackage.zipuhci.regthen: C:SYSUSBusbstor_demo.zipusbstor.regC:SYSUSBusbstor_demo.zipusbstor.sys re-booting and setting BIOS PnP/PCI optionsAssign IRQ for USBfrom Disabled to Enabled the BIOS boot up PCI screenassigned the USB to IRQ 10and changed the SIIG PCI IDE controllerfrom IRQ 10 to 9 ..

Seemed OK since it still booted fromdisk connected to SIIG controller did net start uhci which madeuhci.sys and usbstor.sys active ...

momboard has an eight pin connector for two USB: (permits connection directly to the system without an external hub) +5v (00) +5vUSBP0- (00) USB P1-USBP0+ (00) USB P1+GND (00) GND so i assume i need a connector from this toa Female USB connector .. ?? and am i too optimistic to assume that anycheep USB Flash device would connect and berecognized by NT 4.0 ?? :rod-scaramento(BackUps ? we dont need No stinking Backups..)

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04/01/2018 18:33 - Yep - the Syquest has been a God-send on several occasions ! Primarily because i think you'll find he's put a lot more effort into it :-) I haven't looked at the source code (which he has now published) but I suspect it will probably also have a large assembler component in it - and assembler always produces far more compact .exe code than the best compiled result from a high-level language.

I'm sure any of the NT4 USB solutions should allow you to access a Flash 'key' USB device on your machine. It is unlikely that you would be able to boot from a USB device however - to do so requires BIOS support, which a motherboard of the 430TX vintage definitely wouldn't have - I've never even attempted a boot to NT4 from such media types.


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04/01/2018 18:33 - Yes, you may have to. You'll probably need to consult the USB standard to get the correct pinouts on the USB connectors. Here: http://www.usb.org/developers/docs/ (USB 1.1 spec is at the bottom of the page) should help - but it's a fairly big document to read ! That is what the USBStore driver is for. It manages creation and removal of storage devices. I'm not too familiar with Woodheads approach, but the IONetworks system automatically allocates a new drive letter when a device is detected. To safely remove it, you use right mouse > eject from explorer to unmount the device from the system when you want to unplug.

You may need to format, again right mouse > format from explorer once it gets a drive letter.

Hmmm.... dunno about that one. Booting from USB media to NT4, dunno if anyone has ever made that work. Give it a go and let us know how you get on :-) Calvin.


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